When you ask Zendaya about her worst fashion choices, of all people, this is what occurs.

She has to travel back in time to her 2012 debut press trip for her Disney Channel program Shake It Up. She looks up “Germany Zendaya” on Google and hands me her iPhone, which displays a picture of her sitting against a glass railing in Munich while sporting flared leggings, a striped cardigan a la Waldo, an aqua jacket, and a yellow t-shirt. She didn’t have a budget for clothes at the moment. She did, however, have Law Roach.

I’m still upset with him, Zendaya jokes. Why did you include me in this, like? You could have done better, Bitch. She chuckles. She met Roach, her longtime stylist, through a family friend when she was 14 and he was operating his Chicago business, Deliciously Vintage. The costume was one of their first joint creations.

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